The Sourcing Hero
Together, Una and Art of Procurement are excited to bring you epic stories of beating the odds and rising up in procurement. Hear from leading sourcing and supply chain professionals as they share expert insight and tales of business heroism, all in the name of creating exceptional value within procurement. Follow the team: Anthony Clervi -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyclervi/ Kris Lance -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kris-lance-1b9015175/ Kelly Barner -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-barner-6884443/
Episodes

Wednesday Jan 25, 2023
Ep 99: Leading Change Through Collective Courage feat. Daniel Oppong
Wednesday Jan 25, 2023
Wednesday Jan 25, 2023
Each person has a responsibility to make sure that all of their small choices add up to the total impact they want to have - on others and on the world. If we can make those choices in partnership with individuals and organizations that share our vision and values, that impact will be magnified significantly. “How we spend our days is how we spend our lives,” as this episode’s guest said during his interview.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Daniel Oppong. Daniel is the founder of The Courage Collective, a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (or DEI) consulting and training company founded in 2020. Daniel has multiple founder credits to his name… a journey that I can assure you requires plenty of courage itself.
In this conversation, Daniel applies his perspective as an entrepreneur, trainer, and coach to today’s diversity efforts:
The type of needs he sees from business leaders and organizations in the area of DEI
How the listening and communication skills of today’s professionals stack up against the challenges they face
What qualifies as a meaningful difference in supplier diversity programs

Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
Ep 98: Turning Ethos Into Action feat. Ian Arthurs
Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
It is one thing to talk about the importance of preserving the environment, and it is another to take meaningful and measurable action to drive change. Corporate sustainability programs are often started in response to consumer demand, but in order to be successful long term, they need backing from innovative, disruptive thinkers willing to blaze new trails.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Ian Arthurs. Ian is the Founder and CEO of Circular.co, a supply chain platform designed to close the gap between supply and demand for recycled goods like plastics. In this role, he is applying his two decades worth of experience with digital platform leadership to solve global sustainability problems by addressing illiquid markets.
In this conversation, Ian shares his perspective on the potential and profitability of taking a new approach to sustainability:
Whether all of the talk about sustainability is converting into the kind of change everyone hopes to see
The current mismatch between supply and demand for recycled goods and materials
How it would change economics of material circularity If more companies acted on the demand for recycled goods

Wednesday Jan 11, 2023
Ep 97: No One Climbs Mount Everest Alone feat. Dylan McCabe
Wednesday Jan 11, 2023
Wednesday Jan 11, 2023
When you are starting a new company, it is a challenge to convince customers that they should choose you over their alternatives. When you are also pioneering a completely new business model for your target market, that challenge increases substantially.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Dylan McCabe. Dylan is the Co-Founder of Limitless Roofing, a GPO specializing in commercial and residential roofing materials and supplies. But he and his team aren’t just consolidating demand, they are also building a collaborative community in what has historically been a highly fragmented industry - at least on the buy side.
In this conversation, Dylan talks about the importance of community - both for his team and for the industry they are working to support:
What he has learned from his ‘go to market’ experience
What the entrepreneur’s (or intrapreneur’s) mindset means to him
The role that community building plays in his go to market strategy and company value proposition

Wednesday Jan 04, 2023
Ep 96: The Importance of Standardizing Carbon Reporting feat. Saleh ElHattab
Wednesday Jan 04, 2023
Wednesday Jan 04, 2023
Most corporate sustainability programs are rooted in passion and a desire to continue doing well while preserving and investing in the environment. That passion is important, but it needs to be supported by quantitative standards. Not only does this make progress possible, but it also holds everyone accountable for the commitments they have made.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Saleh ElHattab, CEO of Gravity Climate. He and his team help industrial businesses and their supply chain partners manage their carbon footprint by measuring their emissions, decarbonizing their operations, and promoting their sustainability efforts.
In this conversation, Saleh talks about the data and strategy that have to underpin any investment in sustainability:
The difference that regulation and oversight have already made in carbon reporting
How companies can baseline and benchmark to know if they are doing well
Why CEOs are excited about carbon management and how procurement and supply chain operationalize that executive level vision

Wednesday Dec 21, 2022
Ep 95: All Eyes on China - the Human Side of Current Events feat. Kris Lance
Wednesday Dec 21, 2022
Wednesday Dec 21, 2022
In 2022, the world read news headlines that included skyrocketing energy costs, the horrors of war, rising food insecurity, complex economic troubles, and more. While the issues at the heart of these stories differed greatly, they all have one thing in common: human impact.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes back Kris Lance, Senior Director at Una, for a recurring monthly conversation about current news stories. Kris has experience in multiple industries and has his finger on the pulse of the trends and topics that procurement, sourcing, and supply chain professionals need to be aware of.
In this interview, Kris and Kelly talk about the business and human impact of China’s presence on the world stage:
The A4 Revolution and its connection to strict and sustained ‘Zero COVID’ policies
High stakes geopolitical posturing, and whether diplomacy can lead to necessary change
China’s slow but steady approach towards Taiwan, the world’s hub for semiconductor production

Wednesday Dec 14, 2022
Ep 94: Fostering Sustainability in the Real World feat. Jonathan O’Brien
Wednesday Dec 14, 2022
Wednesday Dec 14, 2022
Over the last 20 years, there has been a groundswell of interest in sustainability. Turning that interest into action will require procurement to be at their very best. If there is one thing missing from many of the efforts that have been made so far, it is taking a cohesive approach to operationalizing sustainability goals and targets.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Jonathan O’Brien. Jonathan is the CEO and a founding member of Positive Purchasing. He has over 30 years’ experience of working with household name companies around the world to help transform procurement and negotiation capabilities and is a prolific author.
In this conversation, Jonathan shares his perspective on the state of sustainable supply chains and responsible procurement:
Whether procurement has matured enough to move beyond enforcement/governance and turn the pursuit of supply chain sustainability into a collaborative journey
How to create a feeling of shared, cross-functional ownership and responsibility for sustainability programs
The ESG trend and whether it creates such a large target that specific initiatives like carbon emissions, human rights, or diversity are at risk of getting lost

Wednesday Dec 07, 2022
Ep 93: Empowering Supplier Diversity Managers to Drive Change feat. Stephanie Lokker
Wednesday Dec 07, 2022
Wednesday Dec 07, 2022
Supplier diversity is a good idea - but that fact plus a vision creates very little value. It takes leadership, ownership, and a lot of hard work to convert the vision and social mission behind supplier diversity into tangible results.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Stephanie Lokker. Stephanie is the CEO and Managing Partner of Lockerbie & Co., where she and her team of consultants solve complex business problems for their Fortune 500 and private equity clients. Also relevant to today’s conversation is that Lockerbie currently holds nine diverse-supplier certifications at both the state and federal level.
In this conversation, Stephanie shares her experience with making supplier diversity programs as successful as the vision that drives them:
To what extent should supplier diversity be clearly owned by one or more full time professionals and to what extent should responsibility be distributed to everyone with decision making authority?
What is the difference between supplier diversity programs and DEI programs?
What skillsets are needed for supplier diversity managers to be successful in their role?

Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
Ep 92: Social Selling for Procurement Professionals feat. Tim Hughes
Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
Social media has changed the way we do nearly everything: stay in touch with friends, gather information, stay informed about the news, and make decisions. But should it also alter the way we buy and sell? Executive and author Tim Hughes says yes - and not only that, our time on social media should be driven by strategy and purpose.
In this episode of The Sourcing Hero podcast, Host Kelly Barner welcomes Tim Hughes. Tim is the CEO and Co-Founder of DLA Ignite as well as the Author of Social Selling: Techniques to Influence Buyers and Changemakers. That book, which was published in 2016, was so well received that it is now out in a second edition.
In this conversation, Tim explains how social selling should work and the benefits it offers to both procurement and sales professionals:
What procurement and sales need to know about each other in order to partner more constructively
How each of us can become better at leveraging our time on social media
What content means and why it is absolutely critical to our ability to build relationships and influence others